09 - Vamonos

[Dr K Harris]

Discuss the episode here.

When Alex is forced to put a patient's gender reassignment surgery on hold, she discovers a secret in his medical history that could save his surgery, but tear his life apart. Charlie deals with a patient who is healthy, sane - and convinced she is going to die at midnight. Meanwhile, Joel secretly helps Sonja deal with a patient of hers who's been admitted to Hope Zion Hospital.

[ZionHarris]

Great episode right until the very last moment...I think I'm the only one who didn't like or really get the trampoline thing.     I know Jenna mentioned the feeling before, but Charlie spent three months in a similar state, why he felt the need to blow off the sunrise meeting for a few minutes of bouncing on a stranger's trampoline is beyond me.  I can't imagine the conversation explaining it to Alex either!

Otherwise, 3 pretty good storylines.  Felt bad for Joel on getting dumped after going through all that with Sonja.  Wonder if she'll be back, she kind of disappeared after Wide Awake.

Oh, and that's three out of four eps now where someone kisses Charlie.  Looks like craziness is a turn-on!

[Dr K Harris]

LOL....

I understood it... he needed to do something stupid before he could die. He realises he is also very lucky to be alive and be able to do it.

Kriss

[priggy]

Did anyone else like this episode simply because Jenna said "who else is there to be?" and telling him to embrace seeing the dead or nearly dead people.

[ZionHarris]

I did like Jenna and the fact she told Charlie to just be himself. Second straight episode where someone tells Charlie to keep or embrace his ability. Hope he remembers those conversations.

[priggy]

Ford was good but he wanted Charlie to use it for personal gain, which I didn't like but Jenna was like just be who yourself. After all who else is there to be other than himself.

Also I feel like this ability is a bit like the hallows in Harry Potter. The truly own one of them and have them work well is not to use them for personal gain but to use it to help people.

The ability affected Randall negatively because he tried to use it for personal gain, I'm not sure Charlie could.

[ZionHarris]

Ford might have had personal gain in mind, but I think he also had the basic idea of helping people. Like you've said Charlie has the ability to know things others can't, and Ford pointed out that this can be a good thing.

[ZionHarris]

After yet another viewing I have a theory on the trampoline thing.

Despite being convinced she is going to die, Jenna is very spirited and full of life and energy throughout the episode. She takes time to enjoy nature (meteor shower) and gives the Charlie the 'be yourself' talk at the end.

I think this had an impact on Charlie, though he is still confused/troubled by his current state. I think seeing the trampoline while driving triggered the conversation he had with Jenna and maybe he thought it would clear his head.

This is another scene I would love to hear the writers and actors talk about.

[phazedout]

Hi again
Still here, still watching, uni has jusy been ka-ka-ka-krazy with assingments, short deadlines, relearning how to write code and so on and so forth.

So I just watched this episode while IW as eating second dinner (line yer hobbit jokes up here) and a couple of observations:

While I appreciate them having a trans character in the show, they really didn't need th throw the whole kitchen sink at it, trans people are common enough but being born cross gendered is incredibly rare, just sticking with the story without the extra drama would not have killed them. Also, why not have an actual trans person play the role? I realise they might have had to search to find them but it would really make a pro LGBT statement if they had used an actual female->male trans actor to play it.

aaaand something I never thought I would feel, symmpthy for the Kiwi. What a complete user Sonja was. Oh Joel, help me with this person I avoided responsability in reporting, ok you helped me keep my job, put your own at considerable risk, kthnkxbai". SERIOUSLY? using their relationship to leverage a favour out of him then breaking up with him RIGHT after?

I mean, if there was any chance of him transforming form a cheating, womanising scumbag in to a half respectable human being, that has gone down the swanny, the first woman he tries to be selfless with, takes advantage of him then dumps him, lesson learned, cheating scumbag mode to the fore!

Although all it seems I do is moan, look at it this way, any show which can so inflame my passioon for argument and capture my attention enough to critique it, must be good.
Phaze
on the "I will try and finish off the seasons 2 in the next couple of weeks, only reason Iw atched this was becuase I am too tired to study!" ID

[ZionHarris]

Just picked up something...

At the Sunrise meeting, Luke says he was 12 years old when his father died, and his mother became an alcoholic.

Two episodes ago Luke mentioned he and Alex were 6 and 8 dealing with their mother's alcohol problems.

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Then in Heaven Can Wait, Alex looks to be 7 or 8 in the flashback when her father dies. They show a younger brother that I don't believe was named but were led to believe it's Luke, and he's only 3 or 4.

More story/background changing, or the writers got some wires crossed.

[Dr K Harris]

Yeah they are not good at continuity and timelines at all...

Kriss